In the first half of the show, we talk with Marika Rose about her essay “For Our Sins: Christianity, Complicity and the Racialized Construction of Innocence,” which looks at the ways Christian appeals to universality troublingly license Christian colonialism and white supremacy. We talk about Christian complicity in domination, whether there’s a future for Christianity, how Trump is innocent, and more! On the second half of the show, we talk about Marika’s work on Slovenian Marxist Slavoj Zizek, including how he carries on some of the same pathologies in European Christianity that created white supremacy. As always, the episode is Very Good.